MXLIFF word count, including repetitions—alternatives to MemSource?
Thread poster: Artem Vakhitov
Artem Vakhitov
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Oct 8, 2021

Is there any alternative tool that can count words in an MXLIFF file, including repetitions (smth. that AnyCount fails at)? I need to cross-check my MemSource results. Preferably an offline one. TM access is not essential in this case.

[Edited at 2021-10-08 09:10 GMT]


 
Endre Both
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Import in another CAT tool Oct 8, 2021

If TM matches are not relevant, why not just import the file(s) in another CAT tool like Trados, MemoQ or DéjàVu and run an analysis there?

 
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Would prefer a tool that does this directly Oct 8, 2021

Endre Both wrote:

If TM matches are not relevant, why not just import the file(s) in another CAT tool like Trados, MemoQ or DéjàVu and run an analysis there?


That's what I did in the end—exported the bilingual file to DOCX, deleted all but the source text from it, and did the count using SDL Analyse. But I'd prefer a tool that does this directly, because I suspect that I'll have to perform this analysis often and on many files in the future.


 
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Import the MXLIFF file directly? Oct 8, 2021

Artem Vakhitov wrote:
exported the bilingual file to DOCX, deleted all but the source text from it, and did the count using SDL Analyse.


Did Trados refuse to import the MXLIFF file directly, or why else did you resort to the above method?


 
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Yes Oct 8, 2021

Endre Both wrote:

Artem Vakhitov wrote:
exported the bilingual file to DOCX, deleted all but the source text from it, and did the count using SDL Analyse.


Did Trados refuse to import the MXLIFF file directly, or why else did you resort to the above method?


Yes, Studio 2019 refused to import the MXLIFF file, at least in the single-file mode (didn't try project creation). SDL Analyse accepted the file but output all zeros in the analysis.


 
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@Artem Oct 8, 2021

Artem Vakhitov wrote:
Is there any alternative tool that can count words in an MXLIFF file, including repetitions ...


You have a find a CAT tool that will read the file quickly and easily.

Try OmegaT: you may need to update the filter settings so that it considers MXLIFF to be an XLIFF file, and you need to install either the Okapi of the StaX plugin if you want to do work counts on partially translated XLIFF files, and remember to deselect OmegaT's built-in XLIFF filter, which is a bit primitive. To count in OmegaT, create a project anywhere on your computer (you can then reuse it over an over), put the MXLIFF file in the project's /source/ folder, and perform the count from the menu.


 
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Thank you Samuel, will try that Oct 8, 2021

Thank you Samuel for suggesting OmegaT! I have it installed. Will try your method.

Samuel Murray wrote:

Artem Vakhitov wrote:
Is there any alternative tool that can count words in an MXLIFF file, including repetitions ...


You have a find a CAT tool that will read the file quickly and easily.

Try OmegaT: you may need to update the filter settings so that it considers MXLIFF to be an XLIFF file, and you need to install either the Okapi of the StaX plugin if you want to do work counts on partially translated XLIFF files, and remember to deselect OmegaT's built-in XLIFF filter, which is a bit primitive. To count in OmegaT, create a project anywhere on your computer (you can then reuse it over an over), put the MXLIFF file in the project's /source/ folder, and perform the count from the menu.


 
Artem Vakhitov
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Did the analysis—diff between Rep and Exact Match? Oct 8, 2021

Samuel, I did the analysis, and it showed 20 repetitions and 654 exact matches (in word units). What exactly is the difference between them, given that I didn't specify a TM?

 


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