Glossary entry

Latin term or phrase:

in fine

English translation:

at the end (is translation of Latin term)

Added to glossary by LilBridge
Jul 16, 2009 17:38
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Latin term

in fine

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could somebody help me please? Is "in fine" used in english? I'm translating a text from Polish to English and it's used like this:
"art. 510 par. 1 in fine, art. 510 par. 2 kc"
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Aug 9, 2009 08:02: Ellen Kraus Created KOG entry

Aug 20, 2009 19:50: LilBridge changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/796264">Ellen Kraus's</a> old entry - "in fine"" to ""at the end (is translation of Latin term)""

Discussion

interprivate Jul 17, 2009:
LilBridge Thank you for your "thank you". :-))
LilBridge (asker) Jul 16, 2009:
:) no, thank YOU! :) You confirm what I myself decided - to just leave the Latin expressions (there are more of them in the text) in original - after all, if they can be used in Polish, why not English :) Thanks again for a very compreensive answer!
interprivate Jul 16, 2009:
TechLawDC:(Latin only,used.inPolish but not in En A do not think anybody would question the origin of "in fine". It is definitely Latin. We can see that in the heading above as well. But I am sure W. Thackeray and J. Jones are not Polish writers (ok, I agree, they do not belong to this century). Why was I able to find translation of "in fine" in the contemporary English-Russian dictionary? (OK, our dictionaries are poor). Please see references below:
1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.e.#id_est
in fine (i.f.) in the end At the end. The footnote says "p. 157 in fine": "the end of page 157". Example is in English, is not it?

2). http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/journalism/73024...
English translation:per diem and in fineExplanation:
These Latin terms are usually used in English if the context is conducive... such as in legalese or business documents. Here it appears to be commentary on the health-care system. I would leave them. In case you wanted meanings, 'per diem' is daily expenses, such as for a traveling consultant, and 'in fine' seems to be used here as 'in the final analysis.'
You can italicize them to set them apart from the English text.
Thank you.

Proposed translations

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at the end (is translation of Latin term)

it´s a Latin term

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Note added at 2 Stunden (2009-07-16 19:51:18 GMT)
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In fine am Ende (z. B. einer Rechtsvorschrift), auch a.E. · In foro (vor Gericht) ..... Lateinische Rechtsregeln und -begriffe auf Jurawelt · Juristenlatein ...
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latein_im_Recht
Peer comment(s):

agree TechLawDC : (Latin only, used as a borrowed notation in Polish but not in English; not even in English music notation)
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thank you !
neutral Sabine Akabayov, PhD : The translation is correct, of course (also no need to state in the answer that it is a translation). But the question was if the term is used in English (which it is). German references wont help much in a Latin-English question, won't they?
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agree Liliana Galiano
22 days
thank you !
agree Medeia
39 days
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in conclusion; finally;in short; briefly

I am not sure if I got you right. Would you like to know if Latin "in fine" is used in the English language? If so, the answer is yes.

Examples:
In fine, Miss Laura Bell, at the age of sixteen, was a sweet young lady. (W. Thackeray)
And now in fine, the author also wishes to take this opportunity to thank all those kind people who wrote him letters telling him everything that was wrong with his last book. (J. Jones)

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Note added at 40 mins (2009-07-16 18:18:54 GMT)
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Also, like in your case meaning "at the end of" (the paragraph, article, chapter,etc.)
I quess its usage is limited to specific literary style.
Peer comment(s):

agree Armilla (X) : I think I'd keep the Latin form. ;)
2 days 20 hrs
Me too. The Asker's question is if "in fine" is used in the English language. Thank you.
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in sum/in the final analysis

Lit, 'in the end'.
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