Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
Facilitate any organisation in
French translation:
permettre à une organisation de... aider un organisme à...
English term
Facilitate any organisation with which the other party is associated
"At all times during the term of the Agreement, both parties will not directly or indirectly : (i) solicit, or facilitate any organisation with which the other party is associated in soliciting.."
Merci d'avance,
Dec 11, 2017 05:38: Germaine Created KOG entry
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Proposed translations
permettre à une organisation de... aider un organisme à...
Facilitate: vi - act as mediator. Faire office de facilitateur; faire office d’animateur.
Grand Robert & Collins
Facilitate : make easier… synonyms : alleviate, ease; aid, assist, help: give help or assistance; be of service;… cause, do, make - give rise to; cause to happen or occur, not always intentionally; be of use… serve : contribute or conduce to.
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/facilitate
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Daryo
: aider [un organisme] à // but the wording of the question needs to be corrected first, otherwise this question is useless for the purpose of any future use ...
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If you look at the header, you'll see that I corrected the question by "facilitate any organisation in". Pour le glossaire, il faut éviter les [insertions].
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GILLES MEUNIER
: la traduction de facilitate n'est pas le problème, c'est de trouver une tournure juridique donc inutile de donner les définitions du dictionnaire, tout le monde peut le faire....
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Merci pour ton accord sur la traduction. Quant à la tournure juridique (sous "Explanation"), je n'y vois pas de problème non plus, mais si tu peux faire mieux, n'hésite surtout pas!
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Odile Raymond
: "facilitate [any organisation with which the other party is associated] in soliciting..." = aider... à/apporter son soutien à/permettre à.
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Merci, Odile.
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Favoriser toute organisation avec laquelle l'autre partie est associée.
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Germaine
: Pour ma part, je crois qu'il signifie "faciliter", i.e. aider, permettre à. Sans compter que "favoriser qlq'un pour solliciter" m'apparaît boîteux. // Je ne crois pas que ce soit le cas ici.
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Je vous remercie pour votre éclairage même si dans ce genre de conventions, il est souvent question de favoriser quelqu'un ou quelque chose.
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Daryo
: there is no point answering a wrongly formulated question - parsing needs to be corrected first.
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Maïté Mendiondo-George
: on attend avec impatience les proposition de Daryo ..
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... n'organisera d'aucune manière associée à l'autre partie...
... ni organisera d'aucune manière associée à l'autre partie...
Suggestion.
Germaine
: Merci pour ton accord sur la traduction. Quant à la tournure juridique (sous "Explanation"), je n'y vois pas de problème non plus, mais si tu peux faire mieux, n'hésite surtout pas!
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Bonjour Germaine. En l'absence de tout contexte intégral, je saisis 'organisation' comme une certaine planification ou coordination et non pas comme une entité. Fabien est le seul à connaître le contexte intégral..
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Daryo
: even the limited excerpt given is enough to see that the question as it is asked is the result of wrong parsing + "organisera" is too much off tangent anyway ...
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GILLES MEUNIER
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Discussion
If you look at the header of my answer, you'll notice that I did what I can at the moment...
And it's easily done - you can always correct/change the wording of the question before answering.
Kudoz questions are intended to help anyone having to deal with same term in future, not only the Asker.
If you leave a wrongly formulated question linked to the right answer (right for the ST), you create entries that will be useless to anyone looking later for help through previous Kudoz questions...
Basics of glossary building?
Est-ce qu'on doit, pour répondre à une question, se limiter aux seuls mots inscrits en gras dans l'en-tête? Je ne crois pas! Ce serait plutôt le contraire: c'est le contexte qui oriente les réponses!
Est-ce que le texte soumis dans la question nous empêche de comprendre le contexte et la phrase? Je ne crois pas non plus!
Conclusion: Fabien has all sporting chances of getting it right.
C'est une page d'aide. Si vous n'êtes pas prêt à aider, peut-être pourriez-vous vous abstenir de décourager les quelques volontaires.
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At all times during the term of the Agreement, both parties will not directly or indirectly :
(i)
-- solicit, or
-- facilitate [any organisation with which the other party is associated] in soliciting.."
To have any sporting chances of getting it right, you have to consider the whole of of this construction / sentence structure
facilitate [.... someone ...] in soliciting
IOW the term to translate includes "in soliciting" while the details of "any organisation with which the other party is associated" are secondary.